P-wipe?

[Zaina]

I have been thinking for a while that it's time for a p-wipe. My reasoning for this is:

1) The economy is nearly no longer existent. Things that I remember going for well over 100m now go for no more than 10m if even that. There is not much point in vending really because everyone seems to have everything they want or someone willingly hands it to them for free when it's asked for. Having a fresh new start will put meaning back into the items.

2) New players seem to have a full suit of mystical armor for themselves as well as a mercenary which is also in a full suit of mystical all in less than a month. That has got to be boring! What is left?? Grind until you are a billionaire?

3) There are houses all over the place belonging to people that have likely not been seen in ages. I understand that some people have things come up in reality which takes them away from our community, and they ask to have their account saved for their return, but there comes a point where you have to wonder if they are really ever coming back.

Besides that, I think a p-wipe would be encouraging; starting from a fresh new world, no one knows where anything is, everyone working their butts off to get back to the top... now doesn't that sound like fun?

[WereWolf]

This does sound like a good thing, it would help the server itself in multiple ways:

- Item counts would go way down, making save times shorter.

- This would give staff a chance to move things around such as the purple dungeon entrances, fixing spawns so that they don't crash the server... (DNA Dungeon).

- This will also be good for the Newbs... this would bring every one to the same level.. no one is better than another.. this would bring competition, which for most servers is a very good thing. (it helps the market, gets people to do near impossible things (like me and being the first person with a mystical shield) ).

I think that mystical may be too easy to get... like Zaina said, people can have close to two suits by their first month. I think this is wrong. You shouldn't be able to get the best stuff in game within a month... Thats not how it was when I started, it took me close to a year to get a full suit of mystical... Of course I probably wasn't trying that hard. But bringing a challenge back into MU would most likely bring more players.

With this said. I say yes to a p-wipe.

[twiztid]

i hate to say if but i havnt played here forever to get everything ive gotton just wiped out if that were to happen i dunno if i would stay here

[WereWolf]

You wouldn't be the only person losing stuff, I have stuff from old players that I would hate to lose, but a fresh start means we can forget the past, and shape a better future.

[twiztid]

well if it gets wiped i go

[WereWolf]

How much are you actually losing? I'd be losing a full suit of myst, (2 pieces are from past players) over 4 billion gold, a billion tokens, a myst shield, anything i've kept from Vestige before it disbanded... my multicolored robe, and a lot more... It may sound like a lot here but really it isn't. Sure this may be over 5 years of work down the drain, but I'm willing to sacrifice all of this for a new start, it would get me to play more than i already do.

[twiztid]

ok so what ur sayin is what i have dont compare to what u got? it dont matter what im losing it be eveyrthing ive worked like crazy to obtain thats the point of it!

[WereWolf]

I'm not saying that what you have doesn't compare to what I have, I'm sorry if it sounded like that. I am trying to say that although your losing everything, everyone is going to have to work just as hard... if not harder to get somewhere, and yes some people will lose more than others, I understand how you feel... But I just think we are at a disagreement because I view Ultima as a game, so if i lose everyhing, I am fine with that, I will just start over.

[Zaina]

Please. This is not an argument of who would loose what, or who has more stuff. For goodness sake its a suggestion therefore it must be approved before anything even takes place.

If you are against the idea, give reasons for why you are against it. If you are for the idea, feel free to add to the reasons for it. However please keep in mind it is ONLY a suggestion and nothing more. It may not even happen.

[Tchrspest]

What he's saying is that we've all worked hard for what we have, in our own time. Let's not turn this thread into everyone trading off insults.

And now, to contribute to the thread's subject:

As WereWolf fully knows, I've put some thought into this idea too. And overall, against my own opinions, I have to agree that a player wipe would be for the better of the server. While it would mean that everyone lost everything, maybe that's not so bad. If what you had before the wipe was important enough to you, clearly you'll want it back. Thus, the player-base is reborn.

[twiztid]

then heck with it obviously what i say means crap to any one. peace

[Tchrspest]

I don't know about the others, but I certainly don't mean for that to be what my post amounts to.

If we restart the server, we all lose everything. 90% of that everything is items, and houses, and runes, and money. The other 10%, at least in my value of the server, is the memories we've made with the players we know, and used to know. As much as we might think it can't be destroyed, it can be. If the server gets restarted, we don't even have a world to place those memories with.

But if we want the server to continue, we all have to give up something big. For some, it's a month. For others, it's half a decade, or more. But the server is dying, and this fresh start is what we have to give it to make it stop dying.


TL;DR:
Apology, motivational speech, award winning close.

[twiztid]

well like i say if its wiped then im outa here not that many of ya honstly give a crap ive put in 2 years and im not willing on losing the stuff ive worked for so if it ends up like that peace out

[Kirsa]

I would hate to see everything if it comes to wipe tbh, so I'd stop playing UO in general.
This is the last server I am gonna play on. So yeah, I can understand Zaina and Werewolf, they've played alot longer then me, (although Zaina isn't Veteran yet ) and have (almost) everything they have and thereby would think everyone a wipe is for the better. I'd have to disagree with that statement.

[hyc]

I can already imagine how it would be, one week to find a purps spot, another week till someone start selling eggs,,, Another wipe?

Who got 2x Full myst under 30 days? I feel retarded now,, im about 30 days old and dont even have half a set.


How about a poll?